ANGELA BIRD'S

 


The homeowner's page - 1
MONEY MATTERS
including
Paying French tax on rental;
Good travel deals;
Auction rooms in and around the Vendée;
A selection of estate agents

 

Below are links to the four different sections into which I have now divided this part of the site.

 

MONEY

D-I-Y

GARDENING

MISC

 

Rental & tax

drainage

garden centres

Cinema & books

 

auctions

kitchens

trees

communications

 

travel deals

winterising

rubbish

pets

 

estate agents

heritage

weather

talking points

 

 

 

PLEASE NOTE

I am not a financial expert. I am just sharing personal experiences
gained over the years. I am not guaranteeing that any of this advice is correct, is still valid, or would necessarily work in your own case.

I decline any liability for any loss or inconvenience,  however caused.
ALWAYS SEEK PROFESSIONAL ADVICE

 

 

 

 

 

 

MONEY

 

The euro, and ways to transfer money

 

 

1 € (Euro) is the equivalent of 6.55957 French francs (or about 65p). 100 € is about £66.
Euro notes are in denominations of 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500 (this last is worth a whopping £380!).
Euro coins are in 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50 cents; and 1 and 2 euros.

Before the introduction of the euro, the French government issued lists of frequently-purchased items to help the public familiarise themselves with the new-look prices. Thus, you would expect a baguette to cost about 0.61€; a postage stamp for a letter to cost about 0.46€; and a piece of beef for roasting to cost about 13.11€.

Quick(ish) calculations:
- to convert French francs to euros: add half to the francs, and then divide by 10 (e.g. 100F + 50F = 150; divide by 10 = about 15€).
- to convert euros to French francs: subtract one-third of the euro figure, and multiply by 10 (e.g. 15€ - 5€ = 10€; multiply by 10 = 100F).
- to convert euros to £ (UKP), knock one-third off the euro figure and the resulting figure is the £ equivalent (e.g. 100€ -33 = £67).

A few more pointers:
£50 = 80.17€
£100 = 160.40€
£500 = 801.76€
£1,000 = 1604.00€

The French franc is now no longer accepted in shops or banks

 

 

Ways to transfer funds

I can only speak for our own limited experience here - and if anyone wants to add useful information to this section then I'd love to hear from you!

To pay some specific, large bill - to a builder, say, or even to purchase your property in the first place - you can either make a transfer direct to your creditor's bank account (though check that his bank won't make extortionate charges to receive the funds) or ask your UK bank for a banker's draft in euros. It's a cheque in euros, made out by the bank to the person you are having to pay, as opposed to a personal cheque.

To cover running costs of your property, you will probably need to make regular transfers to top up your French bank account. It is illegal to be overdrawn in France, and if an account-holder should go into the red he can be forbidden to have a bank account for several years. So you won’t want to risk your reserves running low while utility companies may be taking their direct debit payments from it each month…

Our UK bank arranges the transfers with very little hassle. You need to have at your fingertips the “IBAN” number, which is the string of figures that identifies your French bank, branch, and account. All this information should be printed on your French bank statement, so take a copy of that along to your UK bank when you are asking them to make any transfer.

In the Charges box, I tick "All charges to be paid by the remitter", which means that we pay all the costs of the transfer at the UK end, and the French bank adds nothing else on. In February 2005 the charges on a £2,000 transfer totalled £22.46 (£20 to the bank, and £ 2.46 for agent). The charges fluctuate according to how much money you send over. It seems to take between two and five working days for the money to reach the French account - even in the age of electronic transfers - so don't leave it to the last minute to top up your account.
I think that there is a top limit of £2,000 that can be sent in this way. Enquire before sending larger amounts.
March 2006: I sent £1,000 to the French bank account very urgently, which cost £20 instead of the £10 it would normally have cost to send this amount. Brilliant service though. I sent it on a Wednesday from the
UK, and it was in the French account before lunchtime the next day!

It doesn't seem to be worth opening a UK account in euros, and drawing cheques on that with which to pay for services in France. The banks make a hefty charge on euro cheques between different countries - yes, you would have thought that the whole point of the euro was that it was a common currency - so forget that idea.

 

 

 

 

TRAVEL DEALS

 

Air travel

 



There are no longer direct flights from
London to Nantes with Air France, British Airways or GB Airways.


RYANAIR

Ryanair routes include London Stansted to Nantes, to La Rochelle and to Poitiers (the latter could be handy for people intending to visit the east or south-east of the Vendée). Return flights about three times a week to each city; fares start from around £35 single (though occasional special offers are far cheaper than this). There is also a new service to Nantes from Nottingham East Midlands.
For travellers from Ireland, Ryanair now flies to Nantes from Shannon, and will by May 2006 add Dublin-Nantes also.  THANKS TO IVOR FOR THIS INFORMATION
  TIP  You can sign up on the Ryanair site, so that you are alerted by email when there are special offers of very cheap – or even free – flights. These usually have to be booked within a couple of days, so you need to act fast…

FLYBE
FlyBe has also been adding new routes to its list. Latest ones include Manchester, Southampton or Birmingham to La Rochelle. They also operate flights to Bordeaux (not that far from the south Vendee) from Bristol, Southampton and Norwich.

BMI
BMI has started direct flights to Bordeaux (less than two hours’ drive from the South Vendée) from Manchester (daily April-Sept), and also slightly less frequently from Nottingham and Birmingham. Check here for timetables.


AER ARRAN

AerArran has started up some new routes to Nantes, from Manchester and from Cork.
There are also flights to
Lorient, in southern Brittany, which could be handy for the north-west Vendée. These are from Cardiff, Cork, Waterford, Galway and Kerry.
THANKS TO MIKE WALTERS FOR THIS INFORMATION

 

Click here for a link to Nantes airport

Click here for a
 link to La Rochelle airport

 
If you find a good deal on flights to
Paris from your area, don’t forget that you can pick up the Lille-Nantes TGV at Roissy (the railway station for Paris/Charles-de-Gaulle airport).

Car hire
All the airports offer car hire (even tiny Rochefort, to which Ryanair was flying while the
La Rochelle runway was out of service in 2005). Usually there are at least Hertz and Europcar; at Nantes several more companies too. In the past, I have found the best deals by using the CarHire4Less website, which sifts through Hertz, Alamo, Budget, Europcar, Avis etc to find the best deal for your category. A correspondent mentions HolidayAutos as offering excellent deals (it seems to be part of lastminute.com).  Another correspondent recommends Car hire on-line http://www.carhire-online.co.uk/#Car hire company for "great service and excellent prices".
 
TIP 1  The airline companies sometimes say you can rent a vehicle through them at a discount but, before taking that up, its worth checking with the above websites, as you often find that through these even the companies like Hertz can work out cheaper than the airline’s offer.
 
TIP 2  try and fill the car up with petrol/diesel just before delivering it back. You are bound to find it at a cheaper price per litre at a supermarket pump than that which will be charged to you by the car-hire company.

 


Train travel

 


If you take the Eurostar service from London-Waterloo to Lille-Europe, you can simply change platforms at Lille and pick up a TGV connection for the 3.5-hour journey to Nantes, where you can hire a car, or change to a local train for the last leg of your journey on the Challans/St-Gilles line; Montaigu/La Roche-sur-Yon/Les Sables, or Luçon/Fontenay. Travelling on this route, you can leave
Waterloo at around 0830 and arrive in Nantes around 1630 local time. Book at least a week ahead to get the best deals. NOTE:  THE EUROSTAR SERVICES WILL MOVE FROM LONDON-WATERLOO TO LONDON-ST PANCRAS IN NOVEMBER 2007.

If you would prefer to travel via Paris, SNCF also runs TGV services to
Nantes from Paris-Montparnasse (though if you've arrived in the capital by Eurostar, at the Gare du Nord, you'll have to allow time to cross the city to Montparnasse station, towards the south-west side of town). 
For most of these services, you need to book a week or two ahead to get the best deals; count on about £120 return London-Nantes.
 
TIP  Age is an issue on TGV trains in France! If you are over 60 you automatically qualify for a reduction of about 25% on request. 
If you are going to do a lot of train travel in France, it’s worth buying a “Carte Senior” for the equivalent of about £30-£40 as it gives you 50% off most off-peak TGV and local train fares – though not on Eurostar services.

Car hire
It's easy to arrange car hire from railway stations (at Nantes railway station, the car-hire companies are at the south exit (sortie sud)). La Roche-sur-Yon has a branch of Hertz near the station
There are excellent deals to be found through HolidayAutos ; just type in the place you want to collect a vehicle, and the size of vehicle you want, and they do a comparison of the different major companies; then you can book online. NB if you choose
Alamo (a US company), you pick your car up from the office of one of the big French companies - Citer, I think.
 
TIP  try and fill the car up with petrol/diesel just before delivering it back. You are bound to find it at a cheaper price per litre at a supermarket than that which will be charged to you by the car-hire company.

 

 

Ferry travel

 


Ferryoffers web site shows cheap Channel crossings, mostly on the short-sea routes (i.e. from
Dover, Folkestone or Newhaven). If you don't mind a longer drive in France (about 8 hours to the Vendée from Calais), then there are often some bargains to be had - but double-check to make sure, before booking, as I have hears of people who found they could have had cheaper by going direct to the ferry company concerned.

Companies operating ships on the short sea crossings include P&O & SeaFrance to Calais; NorfolkLine to Dunkerque. Fast catamaran services by Hoverspeed to Calais and Speedferries to Boulogne. And of course the slick Eurotunnel service from Folkestone to Calais (Coquelles).
 
TIP There are sometimes special deals on offer to frequent travellers around Christmas, for the following year. In 2004 I paid £390 for five return trips (or 10 single journeys) with Eurotunnel during a calendar year – you can fix the actual travel dates later on - which compared very favourably with their usual high prices.

If you want to make savings on the Western routes (i.e. from Portsmouth or Plymouth), which are continuing to spiral upwards in cost, then there are a couple of possibilities:
Brittany Ferries
Property Owners' Club Annual subscription of £45, gives 33 per cent off most crossings, 10 per cent off meals in restaurant, half-price cabins on certain day crossings, and free breakfast to those booking overnight cabin accommodation, plus three guest vouchers for savings of 15 per cent, for use by friends. You can also join if you are a "frequent traveller".
They sail to Roscoff, St-Malo,
Cherbourg and Caen.
P&O Allows shareholders who hold at least £600 nominal of P&O Concessionary Stock by 31 December to qualify for discounts the following year of 50 per cent off Dover-Calais crossings. Holders of £300-£599 of the stock receive half-concessions. They also operate a frequent-travellers' club, so you can get some discount even if you are not a shareholder.
They sail to
Le Havre (but shortly to give up this crossing), and Calais.
Neither company gives discounts on overnight cabin accommodation.
Condor
, newer on the scene, has a Frequent Traveller Club that offers members a 20% discount on all travel between UK, Channel Islands and the French port of St-Malo. Journeys by fast craft from Poole to St-Malo, via either Jersey or Guernsey (depending on day of the week), take a total of 4.5 hours.

 


Road travel

 

If you are navigating on old maps, you will be mystified by the many new bypasses, roundabouts, dual carriageways and even motorways that are speeding up road travel not only within the Vendée but throughout France.
It really is false economy not to invest in a new map each year, as you can waste a lot of time and temper otherwise.

The final section of the A83 Nantes-Niort motorway, linking Oulmes and Niort - and thence Poitiers or Bordeaux - is now complete.
The A87 now runs all the way from
Angers to La Roche-sur-Yon, intersecting with the A83 just near Les Essarts.
Here is a site for general French motorway information; with a page for looking up the various tolls. To locate somewhere specific, or to work out a good route from point A to point B, try the excellent French site http://www.mappy.fr/
 
TIP A UK credit card can be used instead of cash at motorway péage points. You just hand it in to the operator, who swipes it and gives it you back, without any need for you to sign or put in a PIN.

If you are going to spend a lot of time in France, and be doing a good deal of motorway driving – especially if you are on your own in a right-hand-drive car – you might want to invest in an automatic payment device. The added bonus of “télépéage”, as it is called, is that with this box fixed to your windscreen you can sail through the “automatic” péage channel, marked with a “t”, instead of having to queue with the others, and the toll is automatically deducted from your UK credit card. (It’s a bit of a cliffhanger, though, as the “beep” doesn’t sound until the nose of your car is practically touching the barrier!)
I have to admit that heavy traffic is not an issue on the Vendee motorways, but it can be in Northern France and on other motorways like the Paris-Bordeaux one, or Paris-Lyon.
The Liber-t “badge” is available through the Sanef website; you have to pay 30 euros for it (which is allegedly refunded if and when you return the badge), plus 2 euros for each month that you use it (i.e. if you don’t travel on a French motorway for the whole of March and April, you won’t have to pay the 2x2E for those months). Plus, of course, you pay the motorway tolls themselves, which are debited to your
UK credit card. It works throughout the whole network of France’s motorways.
In 2005 I signed up for the whole thing through the Sanef website, by
UK credit card, and the gadget arrived at my UK address within a week.  (The site is resolutely French though, so non-French speakers may find it hard to use.) It’s as well to keep the silver bubblewrap packaging, as apparently that protects the badge from inadvertently clocking up payments at times when you don’t have it on the windscreen (i.e. if it was in your glovebox, and you were paying your tolls by some other method!). NOTE: WHEN YOU ARE ISSUED WITH A NEW CREDIT CARD, AS HAPPENS REGULARLY EVERY FEW YEARS, YOU  MUST REMEMBER TO TELL SANEF, OTHERWISE YOUR TOLL BEEPER WILL NO LONGER OPERATE!
You can use it in another car – though as you would have stuck the holder to your first car, you will have to just hold the “badge” up near the top of the windscreen of the second car as you approach the péage. The tolls still of course get debited to the card that you registered.
Don’t forget that the badge could be a target for thieves if left on the windscreen in your absence. They could pinch it, and then merrily scoot about
France’s motorways clocking up debits on your credit card…


2004 saw the opening of the (mostly) dual carriageway between La Roche-sur-Yon and Les Sables-d’Olonne, the completion of the Challans northern bypass and the opening of half of the Aizenay bypass (south of the town) on the D948.
There’s also a bypass to the north of La Roche that joins the Bournezeau/Chaize-le-Vicomte road with the
Nantes and Noirmoutier roads. (I am hopeless at finding it, myself, but will give better instructions when I have improved…)

The A87 La Roche-to-Angers motorway is now complete (with the final section between Les Essarts and La Roche-sur-Yon opening in January 2005 – ahead of schedule!
There are plans for bypasses of Luçon (linking the La Roche and Les Sables roads) and of Pouzauges; and studies for routes of future bypasses of Les Sables-d'Olonne and Talmont-St-Hilaire. In the even longer term, a motorway linking Fontenay-le-Comte and
La Rochelle is under consideration.

In its scheme for the désenclavement, or opening up, of the Vendée, the county council has decreed that no commune shall be located more than 20 minutes from a motorway or dual carriageway. A mixed blessing...

 

 

 

 

AUCTION SALES

 

There are several salerooms (salles des ventes, or hôtel des ventes) in the Vendée that hold regular auctions (ventes aux enchères) of furniture and effects. I have to admit that I have never purchased at one, but I have friends that have furnished their house almost entirely with bargains picked up at Fontenay-le-Comte.
Like notaires, the auctioneer (commissaire-priseur) in
France has the title of "maître".

FONTENAY LE COMTE
17, boulevard Chail (tel: 02 51 69 04 10)
Sales, Mon (viewing Sat)

LES SABLES-D'OLONNE
4 bis, rue Beauséjour (tel: 02 51 21 25 65).
Sales, Sat 2.30pm (viewing Fri 3-5pm; Sat 10-11am).
If you're selling, the place is open to drop off furniture Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri
2.30-5pm.

 

 

 

 

 

CAR-BOOT SALES (Vide-greniers)

 

Car-boot sales are gaining in popularity – though they are not at all on the scale that they are in the UK.  Nor do they happen as regularly, such as every Sunday. On the whole, they take place in the summer; a village might hold its own once a year.
If you want to locate the nearest one to you, try the vide-greniers website. You can select a particular month from the drop-down menu; everything with a green dot by it is a car-boot sale; those with a red blob are antiques/brocante fairs.
If you click on the individual event in the list, you can usually see how many stands there will be, and how much they cost. Also there is the phone number of the organiser.
The site is for vide-greniers throughout France, so if you fancy trying another département - such as the nearby ones of Loire-Atlantique (44), Maine-et-Loire (49),
Vienne (86), or Charente-Maritime (17) you will get an even wider selection

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PROPERTY RENTAL

 

1. Local taxes
If you are renting out a gite or running a B&B you are supposed to inform your local Mairie who will probably want to charge a "taxe de séjour", a sort of poll tax, for each paying guest. (For the year 2001, our village charged 1F10 for each adult, and 0F 55 for each child per night - but only for July and August.)

2. French tax liability
Rental from a French property has to be declared in France, even if you are permanently resident in the UK. Then you can tell the UK tax inspector that this has been done, and because of the "double taxation agreement" between France and the UK countries you should not be taxed a second time. For our experiences in this, see below:

Please note:
I am not a financial expert and am not setting myself up as an authority
here, merely telling you what we, as non-residents in
France, have done in the way of paying French taxes after reading an interesting series of articles in French Property News.
I can take no responsibility for these details being correct or appropriate in your own case.


IF IN DOUBT, SEEK PROFESSIONAL ADVICE.

 

 

The French system seems very simple. You tell them the gross amount of your year's rental. They halve the total amount (to allow for your running costs and expenses), and then charge you 25 per cent of the remainder as tax. If this final amount comes to less that 2,000F (not sure what this will be now it's all in euro) then they deem your liability to be Nil. (But you have to fill up the form anyway.)

THIS INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
I SHALL NOT PERSONALLY BE DECLARING ANY RENTAL INCOME
AFTER 2002, SO WILL BE LESS UP TO DATE
WITH THE PRECISE DETAILS OF THE FORMS ETC AFTER THAT.

(1) Write in the first instance to the

Centre des Impôts des Non-Résidents,
9 rue d'Uzès,
TSA 39203 75094 PARIS CEDEX 02
France

Tél: 01 44 76 18 00 (+33 1 44 76 18 00)
Information line: 01 44 76 19 00 (+33 1 44 76 19 00)
Fax: 01 44 76 19 90 +33 1 44 76 19 90)
E-mail : cinr.paris@dgi.finances.gouv.fr

in about January, asking for form 2042, "Déclaration des Revenus", and 2042C "Déclaration Complémentaire des Revenus". (If you are already in the system - i.e. have declared in previous years - then you should just receive the forms automatically in early March.)
You can also download the forms from a government website, though it takes some ferreting to find the right ones. Hopefully this link should take you to the page where those who let a French holiday home, but who are not fiscally resident in
France can look for :

”N° Imprimé : 2041-ECVO (N° C.E.R.F.A : )
2005  -  Impôt sur le revenu
Descriptif du formulaire - Lettre d'information destinée aux contribuables non résidents (Royaume-Uni,
Belgique, Canada, Espagne, Etats-Unis, Italie, Pays-Bas, Allemagne)”

From the drop-down menu you can select the leaflet 2041 ECVO RU (Royaume-Uni = United Kingdom), or whatever is appropriate if you live elsewhere.
This PDF document, all in French, tells you what form you need (2042 usually) and what tax you will be liable for.

(2) You receive (or print out) two copies of the form (fill in both, send one off and keep one for your records; if you have printed them off yourself, print two copies of each and then retain one for your records).
(a) You fill in the front page, and date and sign it at the bottom . NB if the wife is declaring the rental income as hers, the form still has to be filled in with the husband's details, plus those of the wife, and you both have to sign it at the bottom.
(b) If you are just declaring rental income and are resident outside
France, you tick a box to the left of the signature box if you are declaring some income on form 2042C. (If you are resident in France, or if you have other French income to declare, I cannot advise you I'm afraid!)
(c) You tick a box on page 2, to say whether you are married, divorced, widowed etc.

(3) On form 2042C you fill in the gross rental received in euro in a box - on the 2001 form it was on page 2, C, box NO (if the husband was declaring it), or box OO (if the wife was declaring it), but the box references can vary from year to year. If in doubt, you can email or phone the tax office in Paris (see above), who are very helpful.
If you have been charging people in sterling, then you need to contact the tax office to ask what their official exchange rate - the Taux d'Echange Officiel - is for the year in question, and then do the conversion into euro.
Send the completed forms to the Centre des Impôts des Non-Résidents (see 1 above), by 30 April of the year following the rental period (i.e.
30 April 2002 for 2001 rentals).

(4) Some months later you will receive a bill. After the first year's declaration, you will receive a quarterly bill that is an estimation for the coming year (as yet undeclared) based on your previous year's income. You have to pay these as they come in, otherwise the tax office can add penalty payments.

 

 

The above method of taxing the second year exactly the same as the previous year can look rather confusing. In May 2001 I was reluctant to make payment of about 1,000F in connection with property rental (for an unspecified period), thinking: "Funny, we have already paid exactly that amount in February 2001..."
However, a rather more figure-savvy friend eventually worked out that these were two instalments of payment on earnings in the 2001 season which the French tax authorities had based upon the previous year's income, and thus they had to be paid.

 

 

 

 

NO HOUSE YET?

 


Here are a few people who can help smooth the path to becoming a French property owner:


David and Carole Crowley have a substantial house for sale near Aizenay.


"Vendée Granny" Sandie Marshall helps people find houses of all types in the Beaulieu-sous-la-Roche area, west of La Roche-sur-Yon; visit her website for full information.  The “Granny” network is becoming well-known in different areas of France. Its members help buyers to find the right property, and usually offer avrious “hand-holding” services to help buyers with laying on utilities etc.


Fluent-English-speaking Frenchwoman Sandra Joyau helps people to find houses, schools etc. She can also troubleshoot on clients’ behalf in dealings with everything from builders to the byzantine French administration system, and is prepared to give lessons in French cookery and culture in the Challans area. Sandra has been an expatriate herself – so knows what it’s like to live in a foreign land. Visit her Okeydoc website for more information and contact details.

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For the demystifying of French mortgages, look at the consumer-guide page of the Best French Mortgages website.  Click on the “Glossary” tab, too, for an extensive list of expressions used in house-buying, legal and financial situations.

 

Here are some pages for the notaires' office in Challans, where you can also find some properties for sale. Farther east, the Pouzauges office of Pierre-et-Terre Immobilier has been recommended by a reader, as has an agent in the Chantonnay/Pouzauges area (click on "country properties for sale" and then on picture of house required, to see further details).
Click here for a list of notaires in the area - they deal with selling property as much as estate agents do.


Or order a copy of the monthly UK-based paper French Property News.

 

 

 

 

 

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